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Re: 2014 Polaris
« Reply #30 on: March 07, 2013, 12:20:43 PM »
With my perceived idea of the intended use of the 550 fan, the oddball clutch choice didn't seem like a concern.  Buy a low price point sled and just ride it.  The long track 550 throws a new twist into things.   For my perceived use of the long track it seems like clutch tuning may be important.   Could be a tuning headache.
Thats only if your concerned about high performance and if thats the case I'd buy a 600

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Re: 2014 Polaris
« Reply #31 on: March 07, 2013, 12:36:49 PM »
Don't you head out west?  Seems like you'd want to make changes.  Standard primary taper and standard spline or keyed jackshaft would be nice.

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Re: 2014 Polaris
« Reply #32 on: March 07, 2013, 12:39:53 PM »
What's the HP of that Poo 550? 60hp?
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Re: 2014 Polaris
« Reply #33 on: March 07, 2013, 03:56:59 PM »
Don't you head out west?  Seems like you'd want to make changes.  Standard primary taper and standard spline or keyed jackshaft would be nice.
Yea - you dont think a 550Fan is big enough for me? 

I'll take along the Summit 800 just in case your right :biggrin:

PS - Goodwrench has already said he wants a 800 ETEC Summit 163 or Freeride - thats just plain ego speaking
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Re: 2014 Polaris
« Reply #34 on: March 07, 2013, 04:00:31 PM »
What's the HP of that Poo 550? 60hp?
either make I think thats about right - I like to think of 60 Clydesdales or Belgiums hooked on a team pulling me up the tallest slopes and thru the deepest boondocks.........................

what more could you want?

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Re: 2014 Polaris
« Reply #35 on: March 07, 2013, 06:12:23 PM »
You're not going to get crazy track speed out of a 550 fanner with a 144, but it's a light sled and will mostly be ridden by lighter riders and types who aren't looking to go pulling chutes.  I think it'll be a great little woods sled or first big-kid sled.
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Re: 2014 Polaris
« Reply #36 on: March 07, 2013, 06:29:28 PM »
What's the HP of that Poo 550? 60hp?
either make I think thats about right - I like to think of 60 Clydesdales or Belgiums hooked on a team pulling me up the tallest slopes and thru the deepest boondocks.........................

what more could you want?

As long as it does 65-70 on the lakes, I'm good with it.

I had a 2000 Arctic Cat Panther 440 2-up that did about 55mph tops on the lakes. The stock gearing was set up to get there pretty quick and was fine in the trails, but it wasn't enough top end for me. Makes me wonder a little bit about the gearing Poo is throwing at it with a long track.
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Re: 2014 Polaris
« Reply #37 on: March 08, 2013, 12:24:24 AM »

Hard to believe the faith Polaris puts in their 550. They advertise it as "proven..reliable".

At least 50 percent of the ones I know of here (mine included x 2), burned down. Including those of the past few years vintage.

Nice. Learned my lesson. Been there, done that.

The Doo 550 is no better. The Cat 570 has a much better track record.

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Re: 2014 Polaris
« Reply #38 on: March 08, 2013, 12:22:19 PM »
Polaris' remedy for detonation with the 550 fan was heavier primary weights.  Maybe it was/is a harmonic issue.

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Re: 2014 Polaris
« Reply #39 on: March 08, 2013, 12:25:01 PM »

Hard to believe the faith Polaris puts in their 550. They advertise it as "proven..reliable".

At least 50 percent of the ones I know of here (mine included x 2), burned down. Including those of the past few years vintage.

Nice. Learned my lesson. Been there, done that.

The Doo 550 is no better. The Cat 570 has a much better track record.

Go fish....

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reliability aside, the poo 550 fanner I had was much better than the 570 I had in terms of performance, ability to run on regular, and mpg.  My 570 pinged and hawed on anything but premium, and timing was fixed un-adjustable.  Was glad to see it go, it got 10 mpg and I thought it was slow.  I know not about the doo 550, but have not heard of any issues.
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Re: 2014 Polaris
« Reply #40 on: March 08, 2013, 01:58:59 PM »
 :c-n:

I got that 09 550 Shift , 121 , for my kid , and the very best I seen on the dream o meter was 70, and that was on a freshly groomed seasonal road , flat with just a bit of a down grade in the direction I was going.
 
0 to 55 its right there,  55 to 65 it takes a bit,  but 65 is just about tops for the 550 with my 175 lb. azz on it.

I doubt youd see 65 from a 144, but it may be geared differently.  :shrug:

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Re: 2014 Polaris
« Reply #41 on: March 08, 2013, 03:36:04 PM »
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I got that 09 550 Shift , 121 , for my kid , and the very best I seen on the dream o meter was 70, and that was on a freshly groomed seasonal road , flat with just a bit of a down grade in the direction I was going.
 
0 to 55 its right there,  55 to 65 it takes a bit,  but 65 is just about tops for the 550 with my 175 lb. azz on it.

I doubt youd see 65 from a 144, but it may be geared differently.  :shrug:

I talked to a friend of mine who just got back from renting 2011 Poo 550's up at Crane Lake, MN. He said they had pretty good performance. He saw 70mph on the gauge a couple of times on the lake. The sleds they rented were basically new (120 miles on them or less) so it's hard to judge durability. At least nothing broke when they had them.

I also doubt you'll see 65 with a 144. It's gotta be geared down just like the 2-ups with the 550.
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Re: 2014 Polaris
« Reply #42 on: March 08, 2013, 03:44:33 PM »
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I got that 09 550 Shift , 121 , for my kid , and the very best I seen on the dream o meter was 70, and that was on a freshly groomed seasonal road , flat with just a bit of a down grade in the direction I was going.
 
0 to 55 its right there,  55 to 65 it takes a bit,  but 65 is just about tops for the 550 with my 175 lb. azz on it.

I doubt youd see 65 from a 144, but it may be geared differently.  :shrug:

I talked to a friend of mine who just got back from renting 2011 Poo 550's up at Crane Lake, MN. He said they had pretty good performance. He saw 70mph on the gauge a couple of times on the lake. The sleds they rented were basically new (120 miles on them or less) so it's hard to judge durability. At least nothing broke when they had them.

I also doubt you'll see 65 with a 144. It's gotta be geared down just like the 2-ups with the 550.
i'm not 100% that would be a true statement.  i remember a few years back when a few guys here (SuperDave and his cohort Aaron) picked up some 06 600 switchbacks that would outrun short track 600 sled on the lake on the top end, something about the uncoupled 144 being a much more efficient transfer of power than the coupled skids in the shorties.
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Re: 2014 Polaris
« Reply #43 on: March 08, 2013, 04:54:09 PM »
 One time I rode my mom's ss because my track was ripped and a guy I was riding with was on a zr9 and he couldn't shake me all day.   That sled beat him up all day and I reeled him in closer as the day went on.  He looked  back in disbelief the whole day.   Half throttle or full  throttle  the top end speed was the same so I  just duct taped it at half throttle.
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Re: 2014 Polaris
« Reply #44 on: March 08, 2013, 05:26:25 PM »
One time I rode my mom's ss because my track was ripped and a guy I was riding with was on a zr9 and he couldn't shake me all day.   That sled beat him up all day and I reeled him in closer as the day went on.  He looked  back in disbelief the whole day.   Half throttle or full  throttle  the top end speed was the same so I  just duct taped it at half throttle.

Sounds like the time I was chasing a guy up a big open river bottom on the wife's little 89 340 sport. :biggrin:
He took off on his Wildcat thinking he was going to lose me..........
The first time he looked back I thought he was going to break his neck and crash he snapped it around so fast.
I wish I could have had a video of the expression on his face. :floor:
He had to pick up the pace and look back a couple more times before he started to lose me.  :floor:
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