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Re: It looks like owning the republican party was enough for Charlie Koch
« Reply #15 on: April 23, 2013, 08:50:12 AM »
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Re: It looks like owning the republican party was enough for Charlie Koch
« Reply #16 on: April 23, 2013, 09:16:44 AM »
quit bein such a dolt.  its laughable how readily you wish to shred the constitution in order to destroy islam in this country.  i mean really, internment camps?  and reasonable people wonder why right wing nuts are often equated with nazi/fascist ideas, LOL.   you play right into that stereotype so wonderfully and give the lefty quacks even more ammo.  you love to jump to conclusions about the jihadists instead of waiting to see if that is actual fact.  wild speculation that was going on in the media during the whole bombing coverage is what everyone bitched about and you're as guilty, maybe more so, than they were.

but that's ok, keep your mind closed and stick to your misguided "american" ideals and you'll keep proving their point.   :thumbsupsmileyanim:  its the right wing whackos that are getting idiots like obama/biden/pelosi/reid elected.  as long as you continue to appear unreasonable and unhinged none of the middle voters will swing your way.  so keep up the great work that forces reasonable conservatives to vote left  :no2:  well done.

The left is even turning their agenda around on Moslems... The fact of the matter is: History has proven time and time again that Moslems are hard core individuals who DO NOT in anyway shape or form (no matter how peaceful) accept the fact that there are others who do not hold their beliefs. They are all taught religious superiority and no matter what you want to believe they have NO RESPECT for YOU.

Over and over they trample all over what we regard as "human rights." I suppose now you've got some sort of an explanation for clitorectemies? How about acid attacks upon women who want to study? How about child rape? How about barbaric laws such as gouging eyeballs out or cutting off limbs as punishment? Stonings? The FACT is these atrocities occur DAILY in modern Islam.

I don't know why you turn a blind eye toward this kind of lunacy. This is NOT the belief of a "radical few," but rather mainstream acceptance in Islamic teachings. There isn't a single "peaceful Moslem" that wouldn't try to kill you if you drew a caricature of MoHAMhead while sitting in front of them. Quit fooling yourself!

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Bob Beckel called for a moratorium on accepting Muslim exchange students into the nation until authorities can determine whether the students already in the country pose a threat.

Sounds like Beckel is advocating closing our borders to these freaks? Why would a good little liberal think such a thing? Because it's finally getting through some fairly thick skulls that you CANNOT have ANY kind of DIALOGUE with people of this religion.

The rest of the world left the Moslems behind in the 7th century for a REASON and nothing has changed in modern times besides the fact we have a new generation of minds that have FORGOTTEN HISTORY and instead sympathize with "The Religion of Peace."

Really, I dare you to spend more than 30 seconds at the following site with an open mind for HISTORY and FACT. There is NO SUCH THING as a peaceful Moslem!

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

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Re: It looks like owning the republican party was enough for Charlie Koch
« Reply #17 on: April 23, 2013, 02:08:09 PM »
Jesus, it's like schoolmarm is back....  :floor:

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Re: It looks like owning the republican party was enough for Charlie Koch
« Reply #18 on: April 23, 2013, 03:10:08 PM »
The left is even turning their agenda around on Moslems... The fact of the matter is: History has proven time and time again that Moslems are hard core individuals who DO NOT in anyway shape or form (no matter how peaceful) accept the fact that there are others who do not hold their beliefs. They are all taught religious superiority and no matter what you want to believe they have NO RESPECT for YOU.

Over and over they trample all over what we regard as "human rights." I suppose now you've got some sort of an explanation for clitorectemies? How about acid attacks upon women who want to study? How about child rape? How about barbaric laws such as gouging eyeballs out or cutting off limbs as punishment? Stonings? The FACT is these atrocities occur DAILY in modern Islam.

I don't know why you turn a blind eye toward this kind of lunacy. This is NOT the belief of a "radical few," but rather mainstream acceptance in Islamic teachings. There isn't a single "peaceful Moslem" that wouldn't try to kill you if you drew a caricature of MoHAMhead while sitting in front of them. Quit fooling yourself!

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Bob Beckel called for a moratorium on accepting Muslim exchange students into the nation until authorities can determine whether the students already in the country pose a threat.

Sounds like Beckel is advocating closing our borders to these freaks? Why would a good little liberal think such a thing? Because it's finally getting through some fairly thick skulls that you CANNOT have ANY kind of DIALOGUE with people of this religion.

The rest of the world left the Moslems behind in the 7th century for a REASON and nothing has changed in modern times besides the fact we have a new generation of minds that have FORGOTTEN HISTORY and instead sympathize with "The Religion of Peace."
in this country we either have to accept that we have religious freedom or we do not.  this country was founded on the principle of religious freedom.  if you can't accept that and want to "force" christianity on the people then we have become no better than any sharia country.  the hardline stance you take is akin to groups run by folks like Matt Hale and his cronies.  its funny really, cuz as much as I despise islamic terrorism it still hasn't blinded me to the constitution.  shit, after 9/11, if I didn't have kids I would have re-enlisted in the military, I was (and remain) that pissed off about it.  frankly, I don't WANT to live in a country that would act the way you advocate.  you know how the saying goes......   and when they came for my group there was nobody left to fight.  which is the logical end game of what you advocate.  its the cost of living in a free society, we will never be able to stop all terrorism, from any group, doesn't matter if they are anti-christian or simply anti-govt, its gonna happen, and I won't ever advocate or agree with a position that leads us toward a police state as you seem to want.

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Really, I dare you to spend more than 30 seconds at the following site with an open mind for HISTORY and FACT. There is NO SUCH THING as a peaceful Moslem!
seriously?  I personally know many.  so even with anecdotal evidence I can prove that statement to be false.  just as false as since christians have murdered abortion docs there is no such thing as a peaceful christian, that statement it about as accurate as yours.  I guess next we'll talk about how all the Asian countries are ethnocentric as well?  after all, they bombed pearl and coined the kamikaze, obviously there are not peaceful Japs either.  dude you are a caricature of an actual assclown when it comes to being open minded.  stereotypical right wing nut.  I guess you've never spent much time reading the old testament either, "true" jews/christians are spose to stone kids that talk back man.  you're a riot man, tell me more about religion.  it has single handedly caused more deaths than any other cause in history, not JUST islam.  might i point you to all of the crusades, the spanish inquisition, nazi germany and countless other executions, battles, holy wars, and bombings.  there is so much blame to go around on both sides if you look at the whole of history.
You hate your job??  why didn't you say so?? well, there's a support group for that, it's called EVERYBODY and they meet at the bar.

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Re: It looks like owning the republican party was enough for Charlie Koch
« Reply #19 on: April 23, 2013, 04:12:59 PM »
Hey Hal, do you want me to turn this around into a lesson about George Soros?

Soros is by and far more evil than Koch.
I checked him out that he is just as bad as Charlie
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Re: It looks like owning the republican party was enough for Charlie Koch
« Reply #20 on: April 23, 2013, 04:23:42 PM »
Yup, Up Late touches on just a few of Soros funded anti-American, anti-Family, anti-Christianity and anti-Sovereign initiatives. He also collaborated with Nazis against his own Jewish faith, turning folks over, he claims he was just a teen and didn't know any better. There's so much this man has paid for that rather than waste my time, I'll c'n'p a list, if you align with this man Hal, you need to do some more independent thinking.

Another thing, Koch gaining $8bil over the past few years isn't difficult to imagine. With Ben BernanQE at the helm inflating equities (In case you missed the fact the market is waaaaaay outpacing everything else) which only serves to make the rich even richer, I'd be more concerned if he didn't amass $8bil the past couple of years. Hal, I think your 99%er mentality is showing... But lets not concern you with the fact that Obomba and BernanQE's policies are holding you back while making the banksters richer, I wouldn't want to pee all over your regurgitated liberal talking points.

When Koch gets to the level of outside influence as the following, then maybe we'll break down further who is more evil. For now Soros wholly owns the evil-rich-man-INFLUENCE title.


Advancement Project: This organization works to organize "communities of color" into politically cohesive units while disseminating its leftist worldviews and values as broadly as possible by way of a sophisticated communications department.

Air America Radio: Now defunct, this was a self-identified "liberal" radio network.

All of Us or None: This organization seeks to change voting laws -- which vary from state to state -- so as to allow ex-inmates, parolees, and even current inmates to cast their ballots in political elections.

Alliance for Justice: Best known for its activism vis a vis the appointment of federal judges, this group consistently depicts Republican judicial nominees as "extremists."

America Coming Together: Soros played a major role in creating this group, whose purpose was to coordinate and organize pro-Democrat voter-mobilization programs.

America Votes: Soros also played a major role in creating this group, whose get-out-the-vote campaigns targeted likely Democratic voters.

America's Voice: This open-borders group seeks to promote comprehensive immigration reform that includes a robust agenda in favor of amnesty for illegal aliens.

American Bar Association Commission on Immigration Policy: This organization "opposes laws that require employers and persons providing education, health care, or other social services to verify citizenship or immigration status."

American Bridge 21st Century: This Super PAC conducts opposition research designed to help Democratic political candidates defeat their Republican foes.

American Civil Liberties Union: This group opposes virtually all post-9/11 national security measures enacted by the U.S. government. It supports open borders, has rushed to the defense of suspected terrorists and their abettors, and appointed former New Left terrorist Bernardine Dohrn to its Advisory Board.

American Constitution Society for Law and Policy: This Washington, DC-based think tank seeks to move American jurisprudence to the left by recruiting, indoctrinating, and mobilizing young law students, helping them acquire positions of power. It also provides leftist Democrats with a bully pulpit from which to denounce their political adversaries.

American Family Voices: This group creates and coordinates media campaigns charging Republicans with wrongdoing.

American Federation of Teachers: After longtime AFT President Albert Shanker died in in 1997, he was succeeded by Sandra Feldman, who slowly re-branded the union, allying it with some of the most powerful left-wing elements of the New Labor Movement. When Feldman died in 2004, Edward McElroy took her place, followed by Randi Weingarten in 2008. All of them kept the union on the leftward course it had adopted in its post-Shanker period.

American Friends Service Committee: This group views the United States as the principal cause of human suffering around the world. As such, it favors America's unilateral disarmament, the dissolution of American borders, amnesty for illegal aliens, the abolition of the death penalty, and the repeal of the Patriot Act.

American Immigration Council: This non-profit organization is a prominent member of the open-borders lobby. It advocates expanded rights and amnesty for illegal aliens residing in the U.S.

American Immigration Law Foundation: This group supports amnesty for illegal aliens, on whose behalf it litigates against the U.S. government.

American Institute for Social Justice: AISJ's goal is to produce skilled community organizers who can transform poor communities by agitating for increased government spending on city services, drug interdiction, crime prevention, housing, public-sector jobs, access to healthcare, and public schools.

American Library Association: This group has been an outspoken critic of the Bush administration's War on Terror -- most particularly, Section 215 of the USA Patriot Act, which it calls "a present danger to the constitutional rights and privacy rights of library users."

The American Prospect, Inc.: This corporation trains and mentors young leftwing journalists, and organizes strategy meetings for leftist leaders.

Amnesty International: This organization directs a grossly disproportionate share of its criticism for human rights violations at the United States and Israel.

Applied Research Center: Viewing the United States as a nation where structural racism is deeply embedded in the fabric of society, ARC seeks to "build a fair and equal society" by demanding concrete change from our most powerful institutions."

Arab American Institute Foundation: The Arab American Institute denounces the purportedly widespread civil liberties violations directed against Arab Americans in the post-9/11 period, and characterizes Israel as a brutal oppressor of the Palestinian people.

Aspen Institute: This organization promotes radical environmentalism and views America as a nation plagued by deep-seated structural racism.

Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now: This group conducts voter mobilization drives on behalf of leftist Democrats. These initiatives have been notoriously marred by fraud and corruption.

Ballot Initiative Strategy Center: This organization seeks to advance a national progressive strategy by means of ballot measuresstate-level legislative proposals that pass successfully through a petition (initiative) process and are then voted upon by the public.

Bill of Rights Defense Committee: This group provides a detailed blueprint for activists interested in getting their local towns, cities, and even college campuses to publicly declare their opposition to the Patriot Act, and to designate themselves "Civil Liberties Safe Zones." The organization also came to the defense of self-described radical attorney Lynne Stewart, who was convicted in 2005 of providing material support for terrorism.

Black Alliance for Just Immigration: This organization seeks to create a unified movement for social and economic justice centered on black racial identity.

Blueprint North Carolina: This group seeks to influence state policy in North Carolina so that residents of the state benefit from more progressive policies such as better access to health care, higher wages, more affordable housing, a safer, cleaner environment, and access to reproductive health services.

Brennan Center for Justice: This think tank/legal activist group generates scholarly studies, mounts media campaigns, files amicus briefs, gives pro bono support to activists, and litigates test cases in pursuit of radical "change."

Brookings Institution: This organization has been involved with a variety of internationalist and state-sponsored programs, including one that aspires to facilitate the establishment of a U.N.-dominated world government. Brookings Fellows have also called for additional global collaboration on trade and banking; the expansion of the Kyoto Protocol; and nationalized health insurance for children. Nine Brookings economists signed a petitionopposing President Bush's tax cuts in 2003.

Campaign for America's Future: This group supports tax hikes, socialized medicine, and a dramatic expansion of social welfare programs.

Campaign for Better Health Care: This organization favors a single-payer, government-run, universal health care system.

Campaign for Youth Justice: This organization contends that transferring juveniles to the adult criminal-justice system leads to higher rates of recidivism, puts incarcerated and detained youth at unnecessary risk, has little deterrence value, and does not increase public safety.

Campus Progress: A project of the Soros-bankrolled Center for American Progress, this group seeks to "strengthen progressive voices on college and university campuses, counter the growing influence of right-wing groups on campus, and empower new generations of progressive leaders."

Casa de Maryland: This organization aggressively lobbies legislators to vote in favor of policies that promote expanded rights, including amnesty, for illegal aliens currently residing in the United States.

Catalist: This is a for-profit political consultancy that seeks "to help progressive organizations realize measurable increases in civic participation and electoral success by building and operating a robust national voter database of every voting-age American."

Catholics for Choice: This nominally Catholic organization supports women's right to abortion-on-demand.

Catholics in Alliance for the Common Good: This political nonprofit group is dedicated to generating support from the Catholic community for leftwing candidates, causes, and legislation.

Center for American Progress: This leftist think tank is headed by former Clinton chief of staff John Podesta, works closely with Hillary Clinton, and employs numerous former Clinton administration staffers. It is committed to "developing a long-term vision of a progressive America" and "providing a forum to generate new progressive ideas and policy proposals."

Center for Community Change: This group recruits and trains activists to spearhead leftist "political issue campaigns." Promoting increased funding for social welfare programs by bringing "attention to major national issues related to poverty," the Center bases its training programs on the techniques taught by the famed radical organizer Saul Alinsky.

Center for Constitutional Rights: This pro-Castro organization is a core member of the open borders lobby, has opposed virtually all post-9/11 anti-terrorism measures by the U.S. government, and alleges that American injustice provokes acts of international terrorism.

Center for Economic and Policy Research: This group opposed welfare reform, supports "living wage" laws, rejects tax cuts, and consistently lauds the professed achievements of socialist regimes, most notably Venezuela.

Center for Reproductive Rights: CRR's mission is to guarantee safe, affordable contraception and abortion-on-demand for all women, including adolescents. The organization has filed state and federal lawsuits demanding access to taxpayer-funded abortions (through Medicaid) for low-income women.

Center for Responsible Lending: This organization was a major player in the subprime mortgage crisis. According to Phil Kerpen (vice president for policy at Americans for Prosperity), CRL sh[ook] down and harass[ed] banks into making bad loans to unqualified borrowers. Moreover, CRL negotiated a contract enabling it to operate as a conduit of high-risk loans to Fannie Mae.

Center on Budget and Policy Priorities: Reasoning from the premise that tax cuts generally help only the wealthy, this organization advocates greater tax expenditures on social welfare programs for low earners.

Center on Wisconsin Strategy (COWS): Aiming to redistribute wealth by way of higher taxes imposed on those whose incomes are above average, COWS contends that "it is important that state government be able to harness fair contribution from all parts of society including corporations and the wealthy."

Change America Now: Formed in December 2006, Change America Now describes itself as "an independent political organization created to educate citizens on the failed policies of the Republican Congress and to contrast that record of failure with the promise offered by a Democratic agenda."

Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington: This group litigates and brings ethics charges against "government officials who sacrifice the common good to special interests" and "betray the public trust." Almost all of its targets are Republicans.

Coalition for an International Criminal Court: This group seeks to subordinate American criminal-justice procedures to those of an international court.

Common Cause: This organization aims to bring about campaign-finance reform, pursue media reform resembling the Fairness Doctrine, and cut military budgets in favor of increased social-welfare and environmental spending.

Constitution Project: This organization seeks to challenge the legality of military commissions; end the detainment of "enemy combatants; condemn government surveillance of terrorists; and limit the President's executive privileges.

Defenders of Wildlife Action Fund: Defenders of Wildlife opposes oil exploration in Alaska's Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. It condemns logging, ranching, mining, and even the use of recreational motorized vehicles as activities that are destructive to the environment.

Democracy Alliance: This self-described "liberal organization" aims to raise $200 million to develop a funding clearinghouse for leftist groups. Soros is a major donor to this group.

Democracy 21: This group is a staunch supporter of the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act of 2002, also known as the McCain-Feingold Act.

Democracy Now!: Democracy Now! was created in 1996 by WBAI radio news director Amy Goodman and four partners to provide "perspectives rarely heard in the U.S. corporate-sponsored media," i.e., the views of radical and foreign journalists, left and labor activists, and ideological foes of capitalism.

Democratic Justice Fund: DJF opposes the Patriot Act and most efforts to restrict or regulate immigration into the United States -- particularly from countries designated by the State Department as "terrorist nations."

Democratic Party: Soros' funding activities are devoted largely to helping the Democratic Party solidify its power base. In a November 2003 interview, Soros stated that defeating President Bush in 2004 "is the central focus of my life" ... "a matter of life and death." He pledged to raise $75 million to defeat Bush, and personally donated nearly a third of that amount to anti-Bush organizations. "America under Bush," he said, "is a danger to the world, and I'm willing to put my money where my mouth is."
The Koch brothers have always been way out in right field. They aren't and never have been republicans. They have always been liberatarians and always will be. There just isn't any future in the liberatarian party and they finally realize that, so they use their massive wealth to influence the republican party instead. I have been following Charlie since 1986, when he was only worth 750 million and his brother Dave only 350 million. Bill is the black sheep of the family and even too right wing for them. It was their old man Fred and another partner that started the company and gained their fortune getting the oil industry going in Russia. They left Russia though, when their fourth brother suddenly died. Probably assassinated.
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Re: It looks like owning the republican party was enough for Charlie Koch
« Reply #21 on: April 23, 2013, 06:40:26 PM »
in this country we either have to accept that we have religious freedom or we do not.  this country was founded on the principle of religious freedom.  if you can't accept that and want to "force" christianity on the people then we have become no better than any sharia country.

seriously?  I personally know many.  so even with anecdotal evidence I can prove that statement to be false. 

I never said to force anything on anybody, but I do want to admonish our enemies. Islam is a cancer to the rest of the free world, plain and simple, it is also our enemy.

Did you really pull out that you "know some?" How about black people, some of your best friends are black, right? lol!

You need to get outside the indoctrination you've been fed. I've studied Islam enough to come to my conclusion, independently. Additionally, there hasn't been a single compelling reason during my entire existence that Islam proves it's value to modern society. Simply citing some Wesboro whackjobs in your ideology does not remotely compare to the verified/recorded/searchable 20,742 "peaceful Islamic" attacks since 9/11/01. It's more regurgitation of the typical sympathizer anecdotes.

Here's an intelligent conversation regarding Islam, I just watched this about 20 minutes ago, interesting they're talking about the same thing I've been saying all week regarding our enemy.

http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/video/featured/prime-time/867432237001/the-vast-majority-of-muslims-are-not-terrorists-but/2319464949001


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Re: It looks like owning the republican party was enough for Charlie Koch
« Reply #22 on: April 24, 2013, 07:32:03 AM »
in this country we either have to accept that we have religious freedom or we do not.  this country was founded on the principle of religious freedom.  if you can't accept that and want to "force" christianity on the people then we have become no better than any sharia country.

seriously?  I personally know many.  so even with anecdotal evidence I can prove that statement to be false. 

I never said to force anything on anybody, but I do want to admonish our enemies. Islam is a cancer to the rest of the free world, plain and simple, it is also our enemy.

Did you really pull out that you "know some?" How about black people, some of your best friends are black, right? lol!

You need to get outside the indoctrination you've been fed. I've studied Islam enough to come to my conclusion, independently. Additionally, there hasn't been a single compelling reason during my entire existence that Islam proves it's value to modern society. Simply citing some Wesboro whackjobs in your ideology does not remotely compare to the verified/recorded/searchable 20,742 "peaceful Islamic" attacks since 9/11/01. It's more regurgitation of the typical sympathizer anecdotes.

Here's an intelligent conversation regarding Islam, I just watched this about 20 minutes ago, interesting they're talking about the same thing I've been saying all week regarding our enemy.

http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/video/featured/prime-time/867432237001/the-vast-majority-of-muslims-are-not-terrorists-but/2319464949001

your ignorance shines thru, I'll leave you to your delusional, paranoid, and hate-filled thinking. :thumbsupsmileyanim:  even douchebag Hannity separates radical islam from the rest, you take take it to the extreme, a place even Hannity and Limbaugh don't go, showing complete disregard for statistics, propagating stereotypes and allowing them to control your paranoia and fear.  a life lived in fear is no life at all. 
You hate your job??  why didn't you say so?? well, there's a support group for that, it's called EVERYBODY and they meet at the bar.

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Re: It looks like owning the republican party was enough for Charlie Koch
« Reply #23 on: April 24, 2013, 07:53:57 AM »
showing complete disregard for statistics

LOL! You still ignore 20,742 "peaceful Islamic" events?

Yeah, Islam is coming on board with the rest of the world. Laughable!





Just so long as it isn't happening during your commute, right?




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Re: It looks like owning the republican party was enough for Charlie Koch
« Reply #24 on: April 24, 2013, 08:22:11 AM »
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Tamerlan Tsarneav slapped around one girlfriend, dragged another into a barefoot, pregnant and veiled arrangement, and went around telling everyone they were infidels. Sure he might have settled down at some point, picked up his membership card in the requisite front groups for the Muslim Brotherhood and limited his terrorist activities to donating to Islamic charities that just happen to do business in the middle of war zones. He could have stuck to beating his wife in the privacy of his home and told his neighbors that America would one day be destroyed knowing they would only nod and walk away humming, "But he's so nice".

The United States is full of moderate Muslims just like that. They are the people politicians point to as proof that not all Muslims are terrorists, just the ones who actually blow up things.

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Re: It looks like owning the republican party was enough for Charlie Koch
« Reply #25 on: April 24, 2013, 08:39:34 AM »
LOL! You still ignore 20,742 "peaceful Islamic" events?

Yeah, Islam is coming on board with the rest of the world. Laughable!

ah, change the subject, nice diversion, you wanna talk about Fundamental Islam's treatment of women, now.  and on that topic I agree. 

for the record, I've not once called islam a "religion of peace"  nor have I once decried their treatment here in the state or forgiven their actions abroad.  you seem to want to 'put words in my mouth' on the subject and make inferences that are completely off-base.  my entire stand on the subject has been surrounding the US Constitution and how people should be treated instead of rush to judgement.  but again, keep putting those words in my mouth if it reinforces your hate filled view of islam and makes me appear to be an appeaser.  roll on!! :thumbsupsmileyanim:
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Re: It looks like owning the republican party was enough for Charlie Koch
« Reply #26 on: April 24, 2013, 10:44:55 AM »
Tell me why the so called "mainstream Islam" you so vehemently believe in doesn't CONDEMN "radical Islam?"

I know why...

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At a minimum, then, anyone who would understand the real views of American Muslims must delve deeper than the surface of their public statements.

Doing so, one discovers that the ambition to take over the United States is hardly a new one. The first missionaries for militant Islam, or Islamism, who arrived here from abroad in the 1920's, unblushingly declared, "Our plan is, we are going to conquer America." The audacity of such statements hardly went unnoticed at the time, including by Christians who cherished their own missionizing hopes.

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as the Muslim population in the country has increased significantly in size, social standing, and influence, and as Islamism has made its presence widely felt on the international scene, that this "fanatical zeal" has truly come into its own. A catalyzing figure in the story is the late Ismail Al-Faruqi, a Palestinian immigrant who founded the International Institute of Islamic Thought and taught for many years at Temple University in Philadelphia. Rightly called "a pioneer in the development of Islamic studies in America," he was also the first contemporary theorist of a United States made Muslim. "Nothing could be greater," Al-Faruqi wrote in the early 1980's, "than this youthful, vigorous, and rich continent [of North America] turning away from its past evil and marching forward under the banner of Allahu Akbar [God is great]."

Al-Faruqi's hopes are today widely shared among educated Muslim leaders. Zaid Shakir, formerly the Muslim chaplain at Yale University, has stated that Muslims cannot accept the legitimacy of the American secular system, which "is against the orders and ordainments of Allah."
To the contrary, "The orientation of the Qur'an pushes us in the exact opposite direction." To Ahmad Nawfal, a leader of the Jordanian Muslim Brethren who speaks frequently at American Muslim rallies, the United States has "no thought, no values, and no ideals"; if militant Muslims "stand up, with the ideology that we possess, it will be very easy for us to preside over this world." Masudul Alam Choudhury, a Canadian professor of business, writes matter-of-factly and enthusiastically about the "Islamization agenda in North America."

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"The Need to Convert Americans to Islam"), this 168-page study, published in Brooklyn, remains largely unavailable to general readers (neither amazon.com nor bookfinder.com listed it over a period of months) but is widely posted on Islamist websites,2 where it enjoys a faithful readership. In it, in prose that makes up in intensity and vividness for what it lacks in sophistication and polish, Siddiqi lays out both a detailed rationale and a concrete plan for Islamists to take over the United States and establish "Islamic rule" (iqamat ad-din).

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The entire future of the Muslim world, Siddiqi concludes, "depends on how soon the Muslims of America are able to build up their own indigenous movement."

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America is central because establishing Islamism here would signal its final triumph over its only rival, that bundle of Christianity and liberalism which constitutes contemporary Western civilization.

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the infusion of the United States with Islamism would make for so powerful a combination of material success and spiritual truth that the establishment of "God's Kingdom" on earth would no longer be "a distant dream."

But this dream will not happen by itself. To American Muslims, writes Siddiqi, falls the paramount responsibility of bringing Islam to power in their country; and to this goal, Muslims must devote "all of their energies, talents, and resources." For this is how they will be assessed on judgment day: "Every Muslim living in the West will stand in the witness box in the mightiest court of Allah . . . in Akhirah [the last day]

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And this was a duty that Islamists saw as incumbent on all Muslims; having helped humiliate the Soviets in Afghanistan, they now, as one native-born American convert to Islam proclaimed in July 1989, must "complete the march of jihad until we reach America and liberate her."

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For all these reasons, the non-violent way would seem to have a brighter future, and it is in fact the approach adopted by most Islamists. Not only is it legal, but it allows its enthusiasts to adopt a seemingly benign view of the United States, a country they mean to rescue rather than to destroy, and it dictates a strategy of working with Americans rather than against them. As a teacher at an Islamic school in Jersey City, near New York, explains, the "short-term goal is to introduce Islam. In the long term, we must save American society."

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Practically speaking, there are two main prongs to the non-violent strategy. The first involves radically increasing the number of American Muslims... ....Hence they focus most of their efforts on conversion.

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For Islamists, converting Americans is the central purpose of Muslim existence in the United States, the only possible justification for Muslims to live in an infidel land. In the view of Shamim Siddiqi, there is no choice in the matterAmerican Muslims are "ordained by Allah" to help replace evil with good, and otherwise "have no right even to breathe."

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This imperative, relentlessly propagated by authoritative figures and promoted by leading Islamist organizations like the Muslim Student Association, has been widely adopted by Muslim Americans at large. Many attest to the sense of responsibility that flows from being an "ambassador for Islam," and are ever mindful of the cardinal importance of winning new adherents.

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Islamists must prepare the United States for their own brand of ideology. This means doing everything possible toward creating an Islamist environment and applying Islamic law. Activities under this heading fall into various categories.

Promoting Islamic rituals and customs in the public square. Islamists want secular authorities to permit students in public institutions, for example, to recite the basmallah (the formula "In the name of God, the Merciful, the Compassionate") in classroom exercises. They also want the right to broadcast over outdoor loudspeakers the five daily Islamic calls-to-prayer. Similarly, they have agitated for publicly maintained prayer facilities in such institutions as schools and airports.

Privileges for Islam. Islamists seek public financial support for Islamic schools, mosques, and other institutions. They also lobby for special quotas for Muslim immigrants, try to compel corporations to make special allowances for Muslim employees, and demand the formal inclusion of Muslims in affirmative-action plans.

Restricting or disallowing what others may do. Islamists want law-enforcement agencies to criminalize activities like drinking and gambling that are offensive to Islam. While seeking wide latitude for themselves, for instance when it comes to expressing disrespect for American national symbols, they would penalize expressions of disrespect for religious figures whom Islam deems holy, especially the prophet Muhammad; punish criticism of Islam, Islamism, or Islamists; and close down critical analysis of Islam.

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How much time? Siddiqi sees Islamists in power in Washington before 2020. For Wahaj, implementation of the shari'a in the United States "appears to be approaching fast," and in contemplating what that means his language grows ecstatic:

I have a vision in America, Muslims owning property all over, Muslim businesses, factories, halal meat, supermarkets, all these buildings owned by Muslims. Can you see the vision, can you see the Newark International Airport and a John Kennedy Airport and LaGuardia having Muslim fleets of planes, Muslim pilots. Can you see our trucks rolling down the highways, Muslim names. Can you imagine walking down the streets of Teaneck, [New Jersey]: three Muslim high schools, five Muslim junior-high schools, fifteen public schools. Can you see the vision, can you see young women walking down the street of Newark, New Jersey, with long flowing hijab and long dresses. Can you see the vision of an area of no crime, controlled by the Muslims?

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their devotion, energy, and skill are not to be questioned, and the larger Muslim-American community for which they claim to speak is assuredly in a position, especially as its numbers grow, to affect our public life in decisive ways. Indeed, despite persistent complaints of bias against themmore voluminous than ever in the wake of the airplane hijackings on September 11Muslim Americans have built an enviable record of socio-economic accomplishment in this country, have won wide public acceptance of their faith, and have managed to make it particularly difficult for anyone to criticize their religion or customs.

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But what is not open to question is that, whatever the majority of Muslim Americans may believe, most of the organized Muslim community agrees with the Islamist goalthe goal, to say it once again, of building an Islamic state in America. To put it another way, the major Muslim organizations in this country are in the hands of extremists.

One who is not among them is Muhammad Hisham Kabbani of the relatively small Islamic Supreme Council of America. In Kabbani's reliable estimation, such "extremists" have "taken over 80 percent of the mosques" in the United States. And not just the mosques: schools, youth groups, community centers, political organizations, professional associations, and commercial enterprises also tend to share a militant outlook,  hostile to the prevailing order in the United States and advocating its replacement with an Islamic one.



 

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Re: It looks like owning the republican party was enough for Charlie Koch
« Reply #27 on: April 24, 2013, 10:48:13 AM »
ah, change the subject, nice diversion, you wanna talk about Fundamental Islam's treatment of women, now.

Change the subject, I brought it up earlier among raping children, stonings, gouging eyeballs and cutting off limbs as "acceptable punishment" in "modern Islam." But you conveniently ignored it and instead tried to oppose the facts with anecdotal evidence that some of your best friends are Moslem.

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Re: It looks like owning the republican party was enough for Charlie Koch
« Reply #28 on: April 24, 2013, 11:13:46 AM »
ah, change the subject, nice diversion, you wanna talk about Fundamental Islam's treatment of women, now.

Change the subject, I brought it up earlier among raping children, stonings, gouging eyeballs and cutting off limbs as "acceptable punishment" in "modern Islam." But you conveniently ignored it and instead tried to oppose the facts with anecdotal evidence that some of your best friends are Moslem.

pft, when you make definitive absolute statement like "there is not such thing as a peaceful moslem" it begs for discrediting.  the statement on its face is bullshit and such poor form if you are trying to make an argument using it is ridiculous.  that argument is so BLATANTLY false and so easily falsifiable I can't believe you'd use it, you're better at making a good argument than that.  the crux of this whole thing has been terrorism, you are the one wanting to cloud the discussion and divert attention from the matter at hand, so yes, I ignored them because they are not relevant to the discussion.  Arab countries and SW Asian countries have TERRIBLE human rights, particularly for women.  but that's not terrorism, you are tryin to present facts for two different things and conflating them as the same, they are not.
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Re: It looks like owning the republican party was enough for Charlie Koch
« Reply #29 on: April 24, 2013, 09:11:12 PM »
Terrorism has many facets, like a diamond, but the MAJORITY of terrorism points toward Islam. Whether or not you want to admit that "peaceful Moslems" participate in "Jihad" (albeit on a different level) is your decision. I've read their "book" and I know what it says, I also know that you'll never be accepted by them unless you subscribe to Islam. No matter how many "best friends" you have, you'll always be an outsider, yet you want to carry their water? Sorry but Christians and Jews learned long ago that getting with civilization is the best option. Islam has not taken this role, barbarism is rampant and it isn't just in the middle east. Dudes running through villages with machetes, maiming anyone in sight in Africa. But since it doesn't fit your narrative of a "raghead with a Boeing" it's not Moslem violence? Islam teaches superiority, which translates into terrorism... How that is accomplished takes many forms, like a diamond.