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Re: 20 days left
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2013, 12:12:41 PM »
What are the shitcago thugs up to now?  No more permits for conceal?
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Re: 20 days left
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2013, 12:36:42 PM »
they have until June9 to pass a CC law or it automatically becomes Constitutional Carry by default.  which in IL means, anyone that can legally buy a gun can legally carry, period.
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Re: 20 days left
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2013, 09:24:23 AM »
CHICAGO (STMW) Five people have been killed and at least 18 others wounded including a 12-year-old boy left in critical condition in shootings across the city since Friday night.

The most recent fatal shooting happened around 2:10 a.m. Sunday in the 300 block of South Cicero in the West Sides Austin neighborhood, police said. Edward Jordan, 53, of the 4900 block of West Lexington, was shot in the neck and later died at Mount Sinai Hospital, according to the Cook County Medical Examiners office.

Around 9:15 p.m. Saturday, shots were fired at a group of people at Ryan Harris Memorial Park in the 6800 block of South Lowe in the Englewood neighborhood. Shaneda Lawrence, 30, of the 9600 block of South Peoria, was shot in the head and pronounced dead at 12:46 a.m. at Stroger Hospital. A woman in her 20s was shot in the wrist, and a 24-year-old man was shot in the back. Both were taken to area hospitals.

Around 3:50 a.m. Saturday, Keith Johnson, 27, was shot in the head during an argument with a man on the sidewalk in the 4800 block of West Iowa on the West Side, authorities said.

Around 8:05 p.m. Friday, Ramar Bonner, 40, was found shot to death in the 200 block of North Mayfield in the Austin neighborhood. Bonner had been shot in the back of his head. Police said an unknown gunman fled on foot after the shooting.

Around 7:24 p.m. Friday, Clifton Barney, 17, was found with a gunshot wound in his chest in the 7700 block of South Langley in the Chatham neighborhood on the South Side. He was pronounced dead at the scene.

At least 18 others were wounded in weekend shootings:

Around 2:25 a.m. Monday, a 17-year-old boy and a 19-year-old woman were shot in the 4900 block of North Whipple Street in the Albany Park neighborhood. The two were sitting in a parked car when a gunman approached and opened fire, striking the teen boy in the head and shoulders and the woman in the right forearm, police said. The teen was taken in critical condition to Advocate Illinois Masonic Medical Center. The woman was taken in stable condition to Swedish Covenant Hospital, but was later transported to Saint Francis Hospital in Evanston.

Around 1 a.m. Monday, a man walked with a gunshot wound to the leg walked into Roseland Community Hospital, where he was listed in stable condition, police said. The man, thought to be in his 20s, told police he was in the 400 block of West 122nd Street when he was shot.

Around 8:39 p.m. Sunday, a 20-year-old man was seriously wounded in the South Side Morgan Park neighborhood. Two suspects shot at him and another person in a gangway in the 11500 block of South Church Street, as they tried to rob the men. He was taken to Advocate Christ Medical Center in Oak Lawn with a gunshot wound to the lower back.

Around 2:20 a.m. Sunday, a 42-year-old man and 57-year-old woman were shot in the 12000 block of South Lafayette while sitting in a vehicle when someone walked up to them and started shooting. The man suffered a graze wound to his wrist and refused medical treatment. The woman was shot in the lower right leg and taken to Roseland Hospital, police said.

Around 3 p.m. Saturday, a 12-year-old boy was wounded in a shooting in the 2800 block of West 23rd Street in the Little Village neighborhood. Police said the boy was critically wounded while handling a gun with another child. Fire Department officials said the boy had been shot multiple times and paramedics took him to Mount Sinai Hospital in critical condition. A 16-year-old boy, who was not home at the time of the shooting, was charged with misdemeanor reckless conduct for bringing the gun into the residence, police said.

At 3:35 a.m. Saturday, a 20-year-old man was driven to Mount Sinai Hospital after he was shot in shoulder in the Humboldt Park neighborhood, police said. The man was a passenger in a vehicle at Division and Pulaski when a group of males begin yelling gang slogans and opened fire.

At 11:25 p.m. Friday, three people were wounded in the 1200 block of South Kolin in the Lawndale neighborhood on the West Side. A 21-year-old woman was taken to Mount Sinai Hospital in grave condition with a gunshot wound in her neck or face, police said. A 38-year-old man was taken in serious condition to Stroger Hospital with a gunshot wound in his back. A 38-year-old woman was taken to Mount Sinai in serious condition with a gunshot wound in her right arm.

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Re: 20 days left
« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2013, 08:35:40 AM »
so the IL house passed a law that will negate the Chicago AWB, if it passes the IL Senate then IL becomes a "Shall Issue" state
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Re: 20 days left
« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2013, 08:46:39 AM »
so the IL house passed a law that will negate the Chicago AWB, if it passes the IL Senate then IL becomes a "Shall Issue" state

16hrs of training = $350+

Permit fee = $150 every 5 years

Springfield XDs = $549

It will not be cheap to carry in Illinois.

The big sticking point right now is the "Home Rule" BS which I think is lame to begin with. I carry a Kershaw knife with me everywhere and without knowing it, I have been a felon for doing so. Channahon, Crust Hill and Aurora for example it is illegal to carry a spring assisted knife. So say they kill "Home Rule" for handgun carry, you can still be taken in for a pocket knife.

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Re: 20 days left
« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2013, 08:50:15 AM »
On the knife again... So the TSA will allow you to carry a small knife now? Funny because I've only been stripped of my Kershaw a few times and it was to fly commercially. I never understood why having a knife on me 24/7/365 I never had an urge to stab someone, but suddenly getting on an airplane I might decide, now's the time.

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Re: 20 days left
« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2013, 08:53:00 AM »
16hrs of training = $350+

Permit fee = $150 every 5 years

Springfield XDs = $549

It will not be cheap to carry in Illinois.


meh, one time fee for training, BFD.  (probably a good idea for 99.9% of people to do that anyway)

$30/yr, meh.  BFD

tons of other handguns available for a lot less.  XD is nice, but definitely not the end all be all of good handguns.  a true concealed carry piece will be much smaller than that anyway, think Ruger LCP, the key word here being CONCEALED.  if you want a concealed defensive piece it don't get much better.
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Re: 20 days left
« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2013, 11:41:27 AM »

meh, one time fee for training, BFD.  (probably a good idea for 99.9% of people to do that anyway)

$30/yr, meh.  BFD

tons of other handguns available for a lot less.  XD is nice, but definitely not the end all be all of good handguns.  a true concealed carry piece will be much smaller than that anyway, think Ruger LCP, the key word here being CONCEALED.  if you want a concealed defensive piece it don't get much better.

C'mon! 16hrs is freaking ridiculous! What are you going to do for 10-12hrs that you don't do in any other CCW course? A plain Jane LCP is still a $400 piece and is way too small for my freakishly large hands. The XDs also fits in a very familiar package for me. The bottom line is, it will be about a $1000 entrance fee. I'm half way there, now lets hope the law makes sense aside from cost and overburdening the citizen.

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Re: 20 days left
« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2013, 11:49:25 AM »
there's far less "training" required for CCW than there is for a driver's license.  very minor concern.  frankly, as big of a proponent as I am for 2nd amendment, this is one thing I can get behind.  there are a BUNCH of idiots out there that have guns that don't know basic safety procedure and if you're gonna carry in public its something that should be known.

edit - btw, do some searching, you can find the LCP for $300.
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Re: 20 days left
« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2013, 04:06:31 PM »
you guys convinc ed me - i bawt a beretta

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Re: 20 days left
« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2013, 08:08:59 PM »
you guys convinc ed me - i bawt a beretta

Shotgun, 92 or a hairdo?

& FWIW - I did no convincing, but I do believe well armed, law abiding folks are a good thing for many reasons.

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Re: 20 days left
« Reply #12 on: May 28, 2013, 08:14:49 PM »
there's far less "training" required for CCW than there is for a driver's license.

Seriously? WTF does a 90 year old widow need to go to a Chris Costa pistol employment course to carry? Live in your "RINO world" more why don't you?

By the time you add transfer fees and possibly tax a ladies LCP is pushing $400, Bud's is clean out of them.

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Re: 20 days left
« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2013, 08:53:17 AM »
I'll take that deal. It's better than what we've had on the table, thus far.


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Re: 20 days left
« Reply #14 on: May 29, 2013, 10:57:09 AM »
you guys convinc ed me - i bawt a beretta

Shotgun, 92 or a hairdo?

& FWIW - I did no convincing, but I do believe well armed, law abiding folks are a good thing for many reasons.
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